Kambiz K
(K=37420) - Comment Date 3/3/2006
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The REAL photo by mr Carlos Hauck under the title of Rena 02 is as follow:
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REAL PHOTO
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Ciprian Ilie
(K=13571) - Comment Date 3/3/2006
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I see what you mean; such a shame when that happens.
There was someone on this site some time ago who specialized in PhotoShoping other people's images, by combining two images, but she ALWAYS made it a point in specifying who the photographer was and showing the original images.
What this bloke is doing is just thieving.
Regards,
Ciprian
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Mervo
(K=8643) - Comment Date 3/3/2006
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That's the way of the digital world I guess. Some people think that the internet is their own property. I wonder if he gained permission from Mr Hauck to do this.
I have to say Kambiz, well remembered and spotted!!! Also, the original image of that beautiful woman is stunning. I'm off to comment.
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Chris Hunter
(K=25634) - Comment Date 3/3/2006
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How do you stop people from stealing online photos?
Don't upload photos to the web.
That is the only 100% way to not allow anyone to steal your images. Or you could put a large copyright directly across the entire image. Or you can use Digimarc.
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Kambiz K
(K=37420) - Comment Date 3/3/2006
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Thank you Chris for your response.
How could I get Digimarc? I heard about it. Does it cost anything?
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Chris Hunter
(K=25634) - Comment Date 3/3/2006
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Embedding the digimarc is free. You embed a one-of-a-kind specific signature in any images you upload.
What you pay for is the company to perform internet wide searches for your images specific digital signature. If it finds your specific signature, it alerts you. I believe you then have to contact however is using your image.
I believe it is a monthly fee with Digimarc to have this service.
Search for Digimarc in google to read more,
Chris
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Rashed Abdulla
(K=163889) - Comment Date 3/3/2006
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I think UF film now they know the real story should remove this stolen image .It is really not fare and not nice fo such an act be left to exist and without an action been taken
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Rashed Abdulla
(K=163889) - Comment Date 3/3/2006
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Also you Kambiz K , you go and put bad comments on members images ,things like sex and mix ,all this is not necessary to do and on comment you put a comment on the image not on this lady looks like sex and all of this cheap talk,you also myst be displained here ,not to harm others.
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Gayle's Eclectic Photos
(K=91109) - Comment Date 3/4/2006
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Rashed Abdulla, what exactly is YOUR problem? I am very aware of your negative comments to Kambiz on his images and now in forum...
Kambiz is to be commended for his alert eye and then taking the correct action by reporting this person in forum!...we all should be more alert and speak up when we see someone violating the rules at UF....
You slam Kambiz for including comments about the attractiveness of a "model" in a photo...that is human nature and often a large portion of the appeal of a photo with a person as an element...you are free to express yourself in your image comments just as Kambiz and all of us are as long as it doesn't violate UF rules....
Recently you asked that Kambiz not comment nor have any contact with you,and yet you demonstrate here with your comment on his comment thread that it is perfectly fine to reply to him...reminds me of the old saying,"Do as i say,not as i do"!....
I would highly suggest that you read all of the FAQs(rules)of UF so that you will have a better understanding of the mutual respect expected here at UF....
There is enough "Lack of mutual respect" around the world and it is up to all of us to keep things on a more positive note here at this global photo site...
respectfully,gayle
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Kambiz K
(K=37420) - Comment Date 3/4/2006
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I DO believe that WE SHOULD KEEP THIS ACT OF STEALING IMAGE in order to prevent other potential misfit peole so called photographers out of this site.
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Rashed Abdulla
(K=163889) - Comment Date 3/4/2006
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dear Gayle Hardman ,if you see my comments regarding this matter and read what i wrote on this articale you will find out that i do not agree with this sort of taken other people work and connecting it to another person ,of course such act is rejected and i did ask in my comment here that UF film should take an action against who every do such thing ,this is what i wrote :
"Rashed Abdulla (K=44608) - Comment Date 3/3/2006
I think UF film now they know the real story should remove this stolen image .It is really not fare and not nice fo such an act be left to exist and without an action been taken "
I do not think my english is that much bad to miss what i wrote here .
Also I beleive that Kambiz, do add bad comments on other people images bad words and he try to be smart in this ,his comment there which i did not like ,he never said a word about the image as a photo weather it is good or bad and just tried to show that this girl looks like some one doing sex job which is not related to this image and the image on UF for proper comment :
http://www.usefilm.com/image/1062387.html
please ,Gayle Hardman ,read and see all that prior to know weather iam with or against some taken some one else work and relate it to himself. Thanks and all of the best .
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Rashed Abdulla
(K=163889) - Comment Date 3/4/2006
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Gayle Hardman .Iam sorry again but if you search carefull for all of the other members westren portrait that Kambiz K ,has added comments on them ,you gonna find that he did the same thing always ,this only indicate that in his dirty mind he want to show that all of the westren ladies are into that sort of sex affairs .THIS IS WHAT I DID NOT LIKE FROM HIM .
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Gayle's Eclectic Photos
(K=91109) - Comment Date 3/4/2006
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Rashed, sorry if i confused you by saying the following:
"Kambiz is to be commended for his alert eye and then taking the correct action by reporting this person in forum!...we all should be more alert and speak up when we see someone violating the rules at UF...."
I was not saying you disagreed about that...i was just making a statement about Kambiz doing something positive...
I clicked on the link of the female model where Kambiz left a comment you say you disapprove of....Rashed, he was saying that she looks like that famous person "Michael" (he means George Michael who was caught doing something sexual in a public bathroom)...honestly,i have noticed that you and Kambiz become confused when you read and write English....you both do far better than i would with your languages,but i often see that there is misunderstanding caused by incorrect word usage,and by not understanding what the person means...
I still believe that you both should read the UF rules called FAQs located under the "Home" pull down menu....
Nobody here at UF tells anybody else what they can or can not say in their comments to others as long as it doesn't break the rules of UF...this is a global community and we all have our own values,customs,slang,beliefs,preferences,style of humor,and different perceptions....what you disapprove of may not be what i,or someone else disapproves of...it doesn't mean you are right and i am wrong...it just means we are different...learning to accept that there are differences is called tolerance...more of that is needed around the world...
respectfully,gayle
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Rashed Abdulla
(K=163889) - Comment Date 3/4/2006
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Gayle Hardman, with all of the comments this gentlman from US army added to Kambiz K image, http://www.usefilm.com/image/1054916.html ,by johancharles boers , you did not dare to answer that man with even a single word ,but look how much you did for this gentlman John Pickes and for me .
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Gayle's Eclectic Photos
(K=91109) - Comment Date 3/4/2006
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Rashed,that army photojournalist didn't attack Kambiz's image and infact commented about the image in a favorable way...your comment to Kambiz attacked him and had nothing to do with the merits of the photo....why on earth would i have anything to say to Johancharles?
He follows the rules at UF as far as i know...
This is not a forum set up for petty issues based on your personal dislikes of another's comments to others or their images....you need to end this,Rashed.....gayle
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Rashed Abdulla
(K=163889) - Comment Date 3/4/2006
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Gayle Hardman , I did never meant that this gentleman Johancharles ,did any thing wrong ,the idea is Kambiz did ,aim so sorry that your English is not leveled with me I would advice you to refer to MS word and translate what I write in English here to your own language ,please my friend do so .there are many comments of Kambiz been recently removed from UF and many also hidden as they all are nothing but insults to other members ,may be you do not know any of this but I did see them when they been posted and I do not like to go and add all of them here as there are so many and I keep a record of them all.I also understand very well that English could some times be very hard for some people ,specially those who never been away from their door steps.:(((((((((((
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Rashed Abdulla
(K=163889) - Comment Date 3/4/2006
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""""" johancharles boers {K:1924} 2/21/2006
Kambiz,
I quess you don't hear...I have tried to be respectful...enough is enough...this is a photo site...for photogrpaher to share their images...
While in Iraq...I saw what insurgents are capable of doing...they are the ones killing civilians by setting off VBIEDs, IEDs, and other explosive devices...these are the same people that take people and chop off their heads...or fly planes into Blding or blow up subways...they do not care who they hurt...so Mr Kambiz...enough is enough..if you wish to comment on my photos...please feel free to comment, but leave the poltics at home.
When I look at your photos...I comment on what you are doing right and wrong...this is what this photo site is about....not politics...
Best Wishes,
Chuck """
now if you read all of this ,you gonna understand that this gentleman did not go wrong with your Kambiz ,but your Kambiz did go wrong with him , johancharles boers asked your kambiz to stop been unrespectful and told him enough is enough ,why do you thing this gentleman johancharles boers asked your kambiz " enough is enough" ????
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Rashed Abdulla
(K=163889) - Comment Date 3/4/2006
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I did not go to your Kambiz by any means but he started trying to contact me for translating and explaining different letters he is receiving which claim that’s it has nothing to do with UF of with photography at all. well, I did not agree to communicate with him out side the art of photography and matters related to UF ,anything else I have no interest in ,as this man to me sound dangerous and behind politics and different un civilized issues . why should I get connected to some one I do not know in real life and why some one brightly telling me he need to discuss matters not related to what we all having here on UF.you can find all of that on my images and it should clear the view for you unless you 2 are differently connected to each other, then it is just a waste of time for me writing all of this here.
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Dave Arnold
(K=55680) - Comment Date 3/4/2006
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I'm going to step into the middle of this and I'll probably be sorry I did.
Rashed: Don't tell my friend, an American woman with perfect English, that she needs to step up to your level of English. Your English is far from intelligible most of the time.
My concern with what you are posting is that you appear to be stalking Kambiz. Anyone who documents and saves posts from another Usefilm member as "proof" of some slight seems to raise an eyebrow in my opinion. Whatever you two have going, take it somewhere else.
Meanwhile, back at the ranch. It seems the faked McCain photo is no longer on the site. But I had to chuckle over his "bio", where he says in one sentence "I use almost no photoshop" and in another "I sometimes use found images" to enhance my own. How does one do that without Photoshop? Inquiring minds want to know.
Mccain's BIO:
About: I am a digital street photographer in every sense of those words. Most of my images have almost no photoshop work done to them other than your typical color enhancement, but I use the digital revolution to serve my own means, to facilitate collage work, to enhance my capacity for manipulation, to further enable my ability to shoot fast and often while strolling around the city streets, and to use each image for building toward an ultimate goal of conveying a theme. To me the big city is loud and quick and congested, and my work is based on reacting to that in any way possible. I use mostly my own images shot in the city or in rural areas, but I sometimes use found images that seem to fit into my purposes if necessary. Photography is an art form that I embrace and I constantly look to produce images that have a message about my experiences in the city.
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Rashed Abdulla
(K=163889) - Comment Date 3/4/2006
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Dave Arnold , I did not start all of this , I did not agree to the stolen image been manipulated and put under another man name as this is not right but I just asked Kambiz K also not to go and put bad comments . Aim not English and I have my language and my History not like some people who talk about a language which is not there and left without History or a back ground . Aim happy as aim. Again I did not go to Gayle Hardman and add any comment on her images ,she came her and spoken loudly to me without knowing what was going on and again Let Leave the English for the English People and let every one else search for a language if he do not have one .
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Kambiz K
(K=37420) - Comment Date 3/4/2006
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>>> I CAN'T UNDERSTAND what are all of these fuss about?? <<<
I JUST SIMPLY REPORT A FAKE IMAGE, (STOLEN IMAGE) nothing else.
DID I DO SOMETHING WRONG BY REPORTING IT, so every body knows about it?
Do you want me not to report about these kind of anomalies anymore?
I do what so ever is the norm is.
I STOPPED COMMUNICATING with that gentleman since 2/25/2006, so I CAN'T UNDERSTAND that why still he continuing his issue with me and why still he is on my back?
When is he going to stop!
When is he letting all of us to continue with our photography life!!!!! the one that brought all of us here.
I would appreciate that gentleman not to harass me any more.
Namaste'
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Rashed Abdulla
(K=163889) - Comment Date 3/4/2006
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It is also to be understood that I did not know that Gayle Hardman is a lady and for that I did feel sorry to reach all of this discussion with her. She still has all of my respect, regardless if she is an American or being any other national.
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Rashed Abdulla
(K=163889) - Comment Date 3/4/2006
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Kambiz K {K:12967} 2/22/2006
I answered you in another comment of ours.
So I do not repeat myself.
About that photo, I as a father and viewer first ask myself where are his/her dearest mom and dad? What happened to them? Did that soldier gave that child to his/her parent? What is the rest of story with that child? Who take of him/her where there is NOT water, electricity, and peace and natural calmness of natural life?
Unfortunately most of your images smell of politics and deadly war which were discussed in all of International News Agencies all around our globe.
If you show me a dead body or person with a sophosticated military equipements with the purpose of killing, then I as a viewer go FIRST about that situation that what happened there rather than oh the exposure is wrong, or the photographer had to use that particular lens? and so what?
It would be ridiculous, wouldn't be!!
So I would appreciate if you post your lovely images in a military photographic journals rather than this peaceful civilian photography site.
Namaste'
The moment you wrote that and after ward you came to me and asked me to give my address to contact me privately for some thing not related to UF and to the art of photography, I felt that you are after severe trouble and I did not like you being attacking others and then make your self like a poor week person. I have nothing against you or against any one else , I am not behind your back and I do not like to be so at all ,you add dirty comments and I put my opinion about that comment to you on here away from you images or the other members images.
I beleived that johancharles boers was doing his job as a photographer and posted all of those images with an open heart ,he never meant any bad feelings for any one here and did feel feel he is trying to show his work and learn from other people comments while you been so rude to him ,this one of the things made not happy with you Kambiz K .
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UseFilm Lover
(K=448) - Comment Date 3/4/2006
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I would request all of you, to keep me out of this.
Dave Arnold, I am, an English Man, from the South West . Your English do not sound English to me. You can't have your cake and eat it, could you ?
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Rashed Abdulla
(K=163889) - Comment Date 3/4/2006
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Dear John, no one is getting you involved here at all, we had some differences and we are clearing them up, this is democracy and the good thing about the modern world, that’s all. I am also not interested in your cake; it must have been one of that junk food which sounds too cheap and nasty, designed for homeless people, all of the best.
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Chuck Freeman
(K=13616) - Comment Date 3/23/2006
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You have a shrp eye. But theft is common since the advent of internet.
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Kambiz K
(K=37420) - Comment Date 3/24/2006
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Thank you Chuck.
I think all of us should be vigilant and notify each other in order to protect this beautiful UF website from misfit so called photographers.
Also we should keep their stolen images on the site, as a prevention to other potential future thieves so that in directly we tell them:
==>> WE ARE WATCHING YOU, a kind of BB scheme.
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Erik Lauritzen
(K=7) - Comment Date 1/13/2007
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I can't believe what I have read in many of the comments about the use of another photographer work: altered or not. Comments such as: What a Shame!(?), Thats the way of the digital world (a particularly naive and dangerous attitude)(?) Its not really nice (?), Are these really serious responses to what happens all to often and not just in photography, but music, essays, poetry, scholarly works, etc.. And while this is an "issue" of ethics more importantly IT IS A CRIME CALLED PLAGIARISM AND IS PUNISHABLE BY FINES AND/OR IMPRISONMENT DEPENDING UPON THE FREQUENCY OF AN INDIVIDUAL's GUILTY COUNTS. IN SOME COUNTRIES THERE ARE LAWS WHICH STATE THAT 3 STRIKES AND YOU ARE OUT!!! Meaning of course that you live out the rest of your life in prison.
We can all philosophize about ethics, moral values, code of honor, etc.. which has been an aspect of photography and one that is vitally important. Remember, prior to digital alteration this type of stealing has gone on (and been punished legally for over a century). But lets call it what it is: CRIMINAL and perhaps lets make sure that this action is punished WHENEVER possible.
Note attachment about Art Rogers V. Jeff Koons. The much publicized lawsuit where Pulitzer prize winning photographer, Art Rogers successfully suit Conceptualist artist J. Koons for the illegal appropriation of one of A. Rogers photographs and made a literal sculptural copy of A. Rogers photograph as a sculpture.
"Its not really nice?" Lets really consider what we are condoning by using such uninformed, naive comments.
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Jan Hoffman
(K=39467) - Comment Date 1/13/2007
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Kambiz -- good work in finding and reporting the "theft". We should all keep an eye out for this type of behavior.
Thanks,
Jan
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Chris Mathers
(K=197) - Comment Date 4/11/2007
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I think this thread needs to be deleted. I agree that it is unethical to use another persons work without citation, we all do, but the posts are out of hand. If anyone is using an automatic translation service than they should be aware that the results will not be proper English or proper any other language. One has only to translate into English and then back to their native language to realize this. Languages are organic, they cannot be held down and forced into a system like some companies would have you believe.
Your best bet if you think that there is abuse in the comments and critiques, is to report the abuse to report the offender to someone who has the power to do something about it. No one on the forums has the ability to tell others what they can and cannot write so telling us will not help resolve the problem.
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Steve Reekie
(K=69) - Comment Date 11/20/2008
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I'm afraid that seems to be very difficult.
Even if saving pictures is disabled there are still ways to copy them by using 'print screen' etc.
You may have seen my post.
There is one photographer on this site whose entire portfolio consists of stolen photos,many from a site TrkNature that I have belonged to for four years.
A shame,but it happens and its hard to stop.
Cheers
Steve
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Jeroen Wenting
(K=25317) - Comment Date 11/20/2008
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Stan Pustylnik
(K=6768) - Comment Date 2/16/2009
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Jeroen, sorry to add fuel to old thread, but what is purpose of photo if it can't be used and re-used?
Sure, it's bad and illegal when author is not credited or mentioned.
But it may be form of soul reincarnation.
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