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Noah Staller - 3 Flip
Image Title:  Noah Staller - 3 Flip
 
 By: Tobiah Deutsch  
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Photographer Tobiah Deutsch {K:2432}
Project #50 Alternate Perspective Camera Model Canon Digital Rebel
Categories Digital
Sports
People
Film Format Digital JPEG
Portfolio Action
Lens Sigma 15mm F2.8
Uploaded 4/10/2006 Film / Memory Type Unity 512MB CF
    ISO / Film Speed
Views 319 Shutter 1/125
Favorites Aperture f/5.6
Critiques 19 Rating
Pending
/ 2 Ratings
Location City -  Milwaukee
State -  WI
Country - United States   United States
About Rufus King High School
4 Flat Gap
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Noah Staller - 3 Flip

There are 19 Comments in 1 Pages
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Fabio Giorgi   {K:1984} 4/10/2006
Good use of light. Perhaps a little croping to shave off the shadow on the top left hand corner?


Maurizio Massetti   {K:30460} 4/10/2006
Excellent and difficult moment captured here!


Tobiah Deutsch   {K:2432} 4/10/2006
Fabio,

Thanks for looking... I don't think that cropping out that shadow would make this photo that much better. Given that there is severe flash flare comming from the left side as well, the whole left side is kind of messed up. OOps.

Cheers,
Toby


Rashed Abdulla   {K:163889} 4/10/2006
wonderufl capture and very great timing, this moment is also very impresive ,the image composition is perfect, all of the best my friend


Hugo de Wolf   {K:185017} 4/10/2006
Good action shot with excellent lighting. I like the use of the wide angle, I think it fits well. Good tones too. The only thing I would consider is to crop off a strip on the left, as that part doesn't really add much and the flare is a bit distracting. I'd definitely leave the wide angle distortion in the front pole of the gate in the composition, though.

Cheers,

hugo


Fabio Giorgi   {K:1984} 4/10/2006
I think that is the flash flare, and the intensity of the light, that makes your image more interesting than an perfectly lit exposition. I don't think it as an oops.


Bart Aldrich   {K:7614} 4/10/2006
Great action capture!


Tobiah Deutsch   {K:2432} 4/10/2006
Fabio,

I was trying to keep the flash flair out of the photo entirely. I kinda screwed that up hence the oops. I think your right though... it does give it an unusual quality that is quite unique.

Cheers,
Toby


Tobiah Deutsch   {K:2432} 4/10/2006
Hugo,

I'm interested to see how much you'd crop out. Would you try to make this image square? Maybe an example for me...

Cheers
Toby


Hugo de Wolf   {K:185017} 4/10/2006
Hi Tobiah, Per attached the crop I have in mind. I think squaring it would be too much, as that would also impy cutting off a strip of the railing on the opposite side. I did cut off a small strip on the right though, but that might not even be necessary.

On the left side, I observed the transition between asphalt and concrete as guide; the lamp post in the background doesn't add much either, so I don't think the image would suffer from a crop without the lamp post.

Per attached... Curious what you think...

Cheers,

Hugo

Suggested crop.


Tobiah Deutsch   {K:2432} 4/10/2006
Hugo,

I like what you've done here! :) I think my first instict as a photographer is to just (sigh) discard this as a missed opportunity because it does need to be cropped. As is every photographer, I'm always looking to use the full frame. But upon second look and with your example, this doesn't look too bad. Perhaps it will/can work?!

Cheers,
Toby


Hugo de Wolf   {K:185017} 4/10/2006
Hi Tobiah,

Preserving the image aspect is also possible, although probably not as strong. I do agree, though, that a really good photo uses the entire frame, and I also strive to use full frame photos only. But that doesn't mean cropping is prohibited or less valid to create a good image?

I think most images benefit from a (minor) crop. Especially in commercial photography, where the image aspects are usually determined by the editor / graphic design guy....

Cheers,

Hugo


Hugo de Wolf   {K:185017} 4/10/2006
Per attached the same type of crop preserving the image aspect.

Cheers,

Hugo

Second crop, same image aspects


Tobiah Deutsch   {K:2432} 4/10/2006
Hugo,

I think you're probably right in this case. The photo at hand would probably not be used in any kind forum where it would really matter anyway (i.e. websites). I will probably use the cropped version in the future. Thanks a bunch for the ideas. Come back and look when I post the next one!

Cheers,
Toby


Tobiah Deutsch   {K:2432} 4/10/2006
I think I like the other better... I think that it adds some dimension to the image not having to crop the bottom of this photo. Thanks for your work though... makes my job easier later! :)

Cheers,
Toby


Terry Geldard   {K:-165} 4/11/2006
What happend to the 1ds?!


Tobiah Deutsch   {K:2432} 4/11/2006
Terry,

Sorry man... I can only get my hands on it every once in a while. :)

Perhaps sometime down the road I can afford one of my own. As for now I get a loaner from a local camera shop for free, so I can't complain too much.

Thanks for looking.

Peace,
Toby


Carlos Hauck   {K:1035} 7/24/2006
Nice perspective, I like the rail in the foreground.
Tobiah, I would like to ask you how big is the difference between a 15mm fisheye and 17 or 18mm lens on the rebel. Like the field, you can go much more closer to the subject?
Thanks,
Carlos.


Tobiah Deutsch   {K:2432} 8/4/2006
Carlos,

The difference is pretty big... the most obvious thing is that the fish eye really starts to distort your horizons. Straight lines at the edge of the frame begin to curve the further out they are.

The other is that the field of view is much larger the 18mm gives me somewhere around 100 degrees...
the 15mm gives me 180...

Keep in mind that this is with a full 35mm SLR... on my DLSR I get less than that.

Peace,
Toby


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