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Hussain Nasir
{K:682} 4/24/2007
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Very welle done , nice tone
Regards
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Fadel J
{K:13695} 4/24/2007
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Beautiful BW, great contrasts Doyle! Nice job by you and the very good female :)
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Doyle D. Chastain
{K:99842} 4/24/2007
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Thanks very much Hussain!!
Regards,
Doyle I <~~~~~
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Doyle D. Chastain
{K:99842} 4/24/2007
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Thanks Fadel . . . she's helpful indeed . . . and skilled in her own right.
Regards,
Doyle I <~~~~~
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Mary Jane
{K:5841} 4/24/2007
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Final shot/post best so far!Whoever she is she sure did a good job tutoring you:).Your a good student and will go far indeed:)LOL.I think 50% this deserve an award only because the sideward glance of the Ibex says hes not lookign for company anymore hehe!
MJ
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John Loreaux
{K:85872} 4/24/2007
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Although I do think the improvements are noticable Doyle, I sometimes think the technical aspect of photography gets in the way of some very great photos and compositions.What I mean is, I thought the other photos of this were very good! Some people who overly scrutinize photos sometimes take the fun aspect from photography! I DO believe We should all try to improve Our work, I also believe getting nit picky can take the wind out of Our sails at times.
I like the presentation of this photo Doyle! Again, the lighting is very good as are the tones!
Super job! Take care!...............................John
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Robert Kilgore
{K:1615} 4/24/2007
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Doyle, I am unable to judge such fantastic quality. The only version that I did not like was the color version. This is very strong and I love it. Thank You.
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Rick Smith
{K:3749} 4/24/2007
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Improve on this...I think not. Love the tone and light...wonderful.
and compositon is outstanding...Well done Doyle
Rick
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Michele Carlsen
{K:140703} 4/24/2007
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Hmmmmm I like to think that 'everything ' can always be improved Doyle... in someway , at some point and time...and I 'DO Agree' the 'Final Ibex' is the Ultimate so far IMHO of course...but what a difference in the changes you made- It's Spooky almost..It's a 100 times better than ever and I've always thought it was wonderful ....sooooo my dear friend... . .. as much as I wish I could answer your question, I know You already know I cannot:(:(
But I really love the changes- and wonderful improvements !
Excellent 7/7
Best Regards,
Michele~
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Sergio Cįrdenas
{K:24812} 4/24/2007
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Excellent shot!! beautiful presentation too!
Regards
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Andre Denis
{K:56069} 4/24/2007
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Hi Doyle,
You would really have to go over the two with a very fine tooth comb to come up with a difference in them. Both versions are very good.
I think John Loreaux has a point when he talks about how we sometimes take the enjoyment out of photography by constantly nit picking. And it is mostly self nit picking I'm talking about. I don't know how many times I have gone over one of my own images trying to "fix" something, until it is just not fun anymore. Sometimes I will save different versions and look at them the next day or a few days later and question why I bothered changing the original. :)
For all the technical wizardry that you have gone through on this one, I still say it's the expression on his face that makes the shot special :)
Great work for sure though Doyle!
Andre
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Wayne Winsauer
{K:6320} 4/24/2007
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Great image Doyle!
I agree with John and Andre.
I've switched back and forth about ten or fifteen times only to notice an infinitesimal difference. I do like the improvement to the chin but the rest was unnecessary in my opinion. Started as an A+ image and ended as an A+ image.
Very nice work!
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Riny Koopman
{K:61185} 4/24/2007
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absolutly wowwwww!!!
easy to understand why Doyle...:)
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jacques brisebois
{K:59272} 4/25/2007
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the result is almost perfect, really love it my friend.
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1301307 60
{K:42377} 4/25/2007
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I really can't tell the difference without looking at it side by side, so i went back to the previous but can't recall the difference. All I know is that This kid is framed and he has a dark background, it will be hard for the judge and jury to acquit him.... : )
regards...
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Doyle D. Chastain
{K:99842} 4/25/2007
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Thanks MJ. She is a talented photog . . . just not a UFer. (A Canadian too . . . ). Not so much a tutor, but a good and talented analyst and we regularly evaluate each other's work! :)
Regards,
Doyle I <~~~~~
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Doyle D. Chastain
{K:99842} 4/25/2007
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John:
I totally appreciate the philosophy behind this comment. As you mentioned, the improvements are noticeable (not everyone agrees). But here's the thing . . . I asked. And you can rest assured that the 'fun' is not out for me, while for others it might have been. Individual preference I gather. You are Soooooooo right that the 'nit-picky' aspects can deflate the drive ("at times") and it's a great point to consider. It's something people who give serious critiques need to watch for all the time . . . help people to improve without making them feel overwhelmed.
I appreciate (very much) the comment!
Regards,
Doyle I <~~~~~
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Doyle D. Chastain
{K:99842} 4/25/2007
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Thank you Robert.
I have to admit a bit of confusion. I have posted no color version of this picture. ;)
Regards,
Doyle I <~~~~~
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Doyle D. Chastain
{K:99842} 4/25/2007
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Thanks very much Rick . . . I suspect (I mean I KNOW) you're right. Hence "Final". ;)
Regards,
Doyle I <~~~~~
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Doyle D. Chastain
{K:99842} 4/25/2007
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Dearest Michele. Thank you. :)
Regards,
Doyle I <~~~~~
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Doyle D. Chastain
{K:99842} 4/25/2007
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Thank you Sergio!
Regards,
Doyle I <~~~~~
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Doyle D. Chastain
{K:99842} 4/25/2007
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LoL! Andre! My buddy! I cannot agree with you MORE! One of these days - soon, I hope, I'll have a shot I myself love. I am, indeed, my own worst critic . . . have no doubt. You really made my day by pointing out that the shot, and not the technical merits of the shot, makes the composition. In truth (IMO) you need both . . . a certain feel, and good techs to present and convey that feel. There have been times working on this craft when I get to feeling this isn't fun . . . usually followed by deleting the entire image for good. But I - for the most part - have enjoyed all aspects of photography, no one part more or less than another. In this case . . . I have enjoyed every moment . . . even seeking advice and comments elsewhere . . . and it has remained fun for me. So while the thought is certainly valid . . . I have enjoyed this one . . . and appreciate the comment VERY much!!
Regards,
Doyle I <~~~~~
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Doyle D. Chastain
{K:99842} 4/25/2007
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Thanks Wayne......appreciate the comment! (So the chin WAS better? HA!) LoL! Oooooh - A+. There goes the grading curve again!! ;)
Regards,
Doyle I <~~~~~
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Doyle D. Chastain
{K:99842} 4/25/2007
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Thanks Riny!
Regards,
Doyle I <~~~~~
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Doyle D. Chastain
{K:99842} 4/25/2007
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Thanks Jacques!! :)
Regards,
Doyle I <~~~~~
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Doyle D. Chastain
{K:99842} 4/25/2007
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LMAO!!! Bobot . . . don't you know that "If the critique don't fit . . . you MUST aquit!"??
Thanks my friend!
Regards,
Doyle I <~~~~~
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Pietro Clarizia
{K:5661} 4/25/2007
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what a campture!!!
excellent compo and tones!
regards!!
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Doyle D. Chastain
{K:99842} 4/25/2007
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Thank you Pietro!
Regards,
Doyle I <~~~~~
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Shirley D. Cross
{K:143264} 4/25/2007
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Personally, I thought the original was spectacular, and so is this, dear Doyle.:)
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Andre Denis
{K:56069} 4/26/2007
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Hi Doyle,
As you know, a lot of the old masters have been known to spend hours, days and even months trying to get an image just right. I think you have to really love photography to try and get every possible improvement out of an image. As you say, every aspect is enjoyable... and we are learning all the time. I understand exactly what you mean when you say you enjoyed every minute of creating this image. Even though some of the differences are very small. YOU know what you did to get to that point. It's a labour of love!
Andre
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Doyle D. Chastain
{K:99842} 4/26/2007
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Thank you Shirley, my friend!
Regards,
Doyle I <~~~~~
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Shirley D. Cross
{K:143264} 4/26/2007
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You're welcome, dear Doyle!:)
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Leonie Fitzpatrick
{K:40416} 4/27/2007
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I must be going mad Doyle... ~~GRIN~~ BUT, please don't tell anyone... How did I miss these?, haven't a clue...:)))
Looked at both, and after reading, see what you have done... EXCELLENT Sir...:)))
Love all of the Ibex shots, however, this one is absolutely, no holds barred, BRILLIANT and a favourite Doyle... :)))
Every single thing is, to my eye, glasses cleaned, National Geographic eat ya' heart out BRILLIANT...:)))
Hooray for friends...~~GRIN~~...
Onie...
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Doyle D. Chastain
{K:99842} 4/27/2007
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You're too nice to me Dear Onie!! Lucky for you I didn't notice you didn't comment already or I might have been crushed in deep and overwhelming disappointment and dispair!! LoL! Thanks very much!!
Regards,
Doyle I <~~~~~
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Ian McIntosh
{K:38909} 5/2/2007
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Its marvellous and I appreciate someone posting who is prepared to discuss processes rather than hope for praise alone.
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Joćo Tavares
{K:39126} 5/5/2007
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Very interesting composition my dear friend Doyle !!
rgs,joćo
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Marian Man
{K:69712} 5/6/2007
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excellent!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Marian
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Doyle D. Chastain
{K:99842} 5/22/2007
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Thanks very much Ian . . . I'm always willing to discuss process . . . you know . . . after I've been called a genius!! LoL! :P
Seriously mate, I know what you mean! :)
Regards,
Doyle I <~~~~~
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Doyle D. Chastain
{K:99842} 5/22/2007
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Hey Thanks JT . . . Hope all is well with you - haven't heard for a while!
Regards,
Doyle I <~~~~~
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Doyle D. Chastain
{K:99842} 5/22/2007
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Thanks very much Marian!!! (As Always)
Regards,
Doyle I <~~~~~
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Ahmed Ismail
{K:19853} 6/15/2007
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A stunning image! So well framed by those stones with a fine texture. He seems to be posing for you. Everything looks so perfect!
Regards, Ahmed
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Doyle D. Chastain
{K:99842} 6/15/2007
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You are too kind Ahmed!!
Regards,
Doyle I <~~~~~
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Camila Schnaibel
{K:809} 8/13/2007
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wonderful shot! Congratulations!
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Doyle D. Chastain
{K:99842} 8/13/2007
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Thanks Camila!! :)
Regards,
Doyle I <~~~~~
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Dani Kimel
{K:1557} 11/6/2007
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I'm awestruck by this photo, I think its just fantastic! The sort of thing I hope to be able to do some day...
+7 and straight to my favourites.
-D
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Grzegorz Markowski
{K:3584} 11/6/2007
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super !:)
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Doyle D. Chastain
{K:99842} 11/6/2007
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Wow. Thanks VERY much Dani! High praise and I see you really are looking through my work! I'm very thankful, my friend!
Regards,
Doyle I <~~~~~
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Doyle D. Chastain
{K:99842} 11/6/2007
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Thanks very much Grzegorz!
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Doyle I <~~~~~
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