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Photographer Jan Hoffman {K:39373}
Project #40 Street Photography Camera Model Canon Digital Rebel
Categories Street
Film Format Digital RAW
Portfolio Street Photos
Lens Canon 17-85mm EFS IS
Uploaded 10/20/2007 Film / Memory Type Sandisk 4 gig
    ISO / Film Speed 200
Views 201 Shutter 1/250
Favorites Aperture f/6.8
Critiques 52 Rating
6.09
/ 18 Ratings
Location City -  Columbia
State -  MD
Country - United States   United States
About I never realized how much power and energy a fire hose has until a month or so ago I saw these two fire fighters handling a hose. One person to control the hose and one person to hold the person holding the hose.

(Contrast and curve adjustments)
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There are 52 Comments in 1 Pages
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Saeed Al Shamsi   {K:47543} 10/20/2007
Very rare shot, I like how the fire men figure out and well separated from the background.
Superb
Work
Saeed


Jan Hoffman   {K:39373} 10/20/2007
Saeed -- Thanks so much for your comment.
--Best to you, Jan


Roberto Arcari Farinetti   {K:178244} 10/20/2007
a fine work jan..
have a nice time, my friend..

roby


Jan Hoffman   {K:39373} 10/20/2007
Roby -- Thanks for your your comment.
--With regards, Jan


Aniko Heart   {K:25957} 10/20/2007
Dear Jan!

What an exceptionally well captured image! WOW!!! Subject matter is amazing, and the composition, all manner of technical details (DOF, exposure, adjustments in pp etc) are spot on! The firemen are pin sharp and in such a great contrast to dark background.

Really a unique work... spendid photo journalism!

Best Wishes,
Aniko :)


Jan Hoffman   {K:39373} 10/20/2007
Aniko -- Wowee - Thanks for such kind comments; I really appreciate it.
--Best to you, Jan


Michele Carlsen   {K:134273} 10/21/2007
A great motion shot Jan - I never realized the power of a fire hose myself -
I really like the clarity for such a candid image--well done !!!

Best wishes,
Michele~


Roger Skinner   {K:63313} 10/21/2007
the c&c adjs work well nice isolation


Jan Hoffman   {K:39373} 10/21/2007
Michele -- Thanks so much for your comments.
--Best to you, Jan


Jan Hoffman   {K:39373} 10/21/2007
Thanks Roger.
--Best wishes, Jan


AJ Miller   {K:45206} 10/21/2007
This is a very strong image. The two fireman stand out wonderfully against the dark background, and the jet of water adds a dramatic touch. The grey patch towards the bottom of the image is perhaps a little distracting, but I'm not sure that it should be removed. It is soft enough not intrude too much, and as this is categorised as a street photo, it should perhaps not be manipulated anyway.

AJ


Jan Hoffman   {K:39373} 10/21/2007
AJ -- Thanks for the excellent critique. I truly appreciate it.
You raise an interesting point about how far one could/should go for street shots with post processing. This photo was already digitally manipulated: curves & contrast. But are street photos really subject to this rule of ethics?
It seems to me if I had marked the photo in the Journalism category then the picture should remain pristine except for crop and exposure control. But if not marked as Journalism then isn't it fair game for just about anything? After all some forms of street photography are more art than reality.
Thanks for bringing up that interesting point. By the way, note that I did not annotate this picture under the Journalism category.
--Best to you, Jan


Nicola Barbieri   {K:17974} 10/21/2007
excellent street! well done
Ciao, Nicola


Jan Hoffman   {K:39373} 10/21/2007
Nicola -- Thanks so much for your comment.
--Best wishes, Jan


Doyle D. Chastain   {K:99839} 10/21/2007
Jan you got a quality image here of the firefighters . . . focal clarity is just amazing. The BG is disturbing to me . . . it gives the impression they are somehow layered or PS BG work is an issue. Distractions include the blurred area between their legs (with halo?) and the front left pocket has a blurred tan color of the outfit. Farther down is what looks like additional halo issues and the rear helmet has something similar.

I think that the curves were a tad too extreme and the selection was somewhat off. Extreme curves can effect color and lighting too much if not SO carefully watched. I think the original (pre-curved) image may have been more dynamic. Just my opinion, mind you, but there it is. I totally LOVE the clarity of the firefighters and the composition is both dynamic and very well done but for those minor distractions.

Street photography and PJ work generally (IMO) are not tweaked too much (especially PJ work) but lighting and curves are ok. Cropping too. Just my opinion, but a Sacramento Union (newspaper photographer) I knew would adjust light and crop only.

Regards,
Doyle I <~~~~~


Marian Man   {K:67026} 10/21/2007
our fire fighters used more energy that a person can use last summer dear Jan with the terrible fires in my country...
this is an exceptional capture of their great efforts!!!
fine in all aspects!!! bravo!!!
all the best
Marian


Jan Hoffman   {K:39373} 10/21/2007
Thanks, Marian. You of all people would be well aware of the hard work and heroism that fire fighters provide to us every day. The devastating fires in Greece were a true test of everything they could bring to the front.
Thanks for your comments.
--Best to you, Jan


Jan Hoffman   {K:39373} 10/21/2007
Doyle -- Thanks for taking the time to give me such an outstanding critique. It is this kind of constructive feedback that we all need to help us stand back and learn where we can improve.

I did get carried away with the curves and contrast but was trying (too hard perhaps) to isolate the image. I did it with a variety of Selects (Magic Wand et al) and the pixel width for applying to some locations was too wide.
The area that bothered me the most was the area between the legs, which Eagle Eyes Chastain caught of course!

Overall I was pleased with the outcome on this one but there are areas that need improvement and I would do it differently (and still most likely will) for better personal satisfaction.

As you picked up on the thread with AJ I still maintain that Street and Journalism are two very distinct categories and I feel that too much manipulation was applied to this photo to qualify as a journalistic endeavor. Street can be raw and gritty as well as approach and reach the level of art; anything goes .....

Thanks again and best to you, Jan


Lily     {K:11009} 10/22/2007
This is an amazing shot. Well exposed image with very sharp details. I actually liked the ps work because it made the composition stronger by isolating the firefighters. Good work.


Jan Hoffman   {K:39373} 10/22/2007
Lily -- Thanks so much for your lovely comments!
--Best regards, Jan


Srna Stankovic   {K:112769} 10/22/2007
So very powerful composition and I do like contrast and curve adjustments my dear Jan cause you emphasized with it this very dramatic and precious moment in time !!!
Excellent job and POV my dear friend !
Thank you so very much for your beautiful comment ... you have touched me deeply as only you could always and ENJOY YOUR STAY AT HOME my dearest friend !!! :)))
Warmest hugs and regards
Srna


Jan Hoffman   {K:39373} 10/22/2007
Dear Srna --
Thanks so much for your wonderful comments!
And it is so great to be back home again after much travelling. I will not have to leave again for a number of months -- so much to catch up on.
--With best wishes and regards to you, Jan


Roberto Teran   {K:2409} 10/22/2007
Excelente fotografia mi amigo, un saludo y muchas gracias por brindarnos tus fotos.

Saludos

Roberto Teran


Jan Hoffman   {K:39373} 10/22/2007
Gracias por tu comentario.
Mejores deseos, Jan


txules  .   {K:32265} 10/23/2007
just fabulous, it should be awarded...txules


Jan Hoffman   {K:39373} 10/23/2007
Txules -- Thanks so much for your encouraging remarks. I really appreciate it!
--Best regards, Jan


reza goudarzi   {K:6533} 10/23/2007
dangerous job! good capture of them by black back round!
regards
reza.


Jan Hoffman   {K:39373} 10/23/2007
Reza -- Thanks so much for your comment.
--Wishing you the best, Jan


D M   {K:76} 10/26/2007
Great journo/file photo type of shot.Nice d.o.f and colour.


Jan Hoffman   {K:39373} 10/26/2007
David -- Thanks for your comments.
--Best to you, Jan


Dave Brown   {K:1270} 10/26/2007
Would have liked to have seen more of the background to put the firefighters more in scene, it looks like it was painted out. Otherwise very nice. Dave


Jan Hoffman   {K:39373} 10/26/2007
Dave -- Thanks for the good comment. I made a command decision that the background was distracting and I dropped it out. However I can see your point of view on this to better set the context.
--Best regards, Jan


Robert Gaither   {K:29674} 10/28/2007
I don't know but I've been around hoses that fill a water truck and well they are powerful. Excellent image and composition.


Jan Hoffman   {K:39373} 10/28/2007
Thanks Robert. Physics be physics; for every action, equal reaction and so on. But two people to hold a hose in place? Amazing...
--Best to you, Jan


Mario Šimunović   {K:3333} 10/29/2007
It must be quite some pressure since there are two fire fighters handling that hose! Great capture, excellent sharpness!


Jan Hoffman   {K:39373} 10/29/2007
Mario -- Thanks so much for your comments.
--Best to you, Jan


vanessa shakesheff   {K:64080} 10/30/2007
Wonderful detail in the firefighters ..like how they stand out from the b/drop..lovely capture ..nessa 7+++++++++++++++++


Jan Hoffman   {K:39373} 10/30/2007
Thanks Nessa. I dropped out most of the background and the comments are divided on whether or not that was the best way to go. I agree with you; the absence of distraction enhances the picture and calls attention to the subject.
--Best wishes to you, Jan


Jose Ignacio (Nacho) Garcia Barcia   {K:92155} 10/30/2007
great documentary. 7+++++++++++++++++++


Jan Hoffman   {K:39373} 10/30/2007
Nacho -- Thanks so much for your comment!
--Best to you, Jan


John Melskens   {K:5079} 11/1/2007
I love this picture, Jan! Great! The colors in this picture, mostly yellow and black, are very strong. The white adds to the whole atmosphere: strong!
Often I like to see faces, but I don't miss it in this picture.


Jan Hoffman   {K:39373} 11/2/2007
John -- Thanks so much for your comments which you must know I value greatly.
--Best to you, Jan


John Melskens   {K:5079} 11/2/2007
Jan - you're welcome.
Great colors and photo!


Derick Smith   {K:299} 11/4/2007
Outstanding. No more words needed. 7+


Gust@vo Sch3v3rin   {K:121680} 11/4/2007
Una gran foto, impactante y poderosa, muy buen ojo, Jan!
Felicitaciones!


Jan Hoffman   {K:39373} 11/4/2007
Thanks so much for your great comments!
--Best to you, Jan


lucio brando   {K:2201} 11/14/2007
good capture well realized compliments you greet lucio


Jan Hoffman   {K:39373} 11/14/2007
Lucio -- Thank you very much for your comment.
--Best to you, Jan


Peter De Rycke   {K:39471} 11/18/2007
Great picture of these firemen working together ..
Peter


Jan Hoffman   {K:39373} 11/18/2007
Thanks Peter. I appreciate the comment.
--Best to you, Jan


burcu kabaosmanoglu   {K:743} 2/4/2008
Through the life..just picking an excellent moment from the life but in a professional way..
take care..
my best wishes..


Jan Hoffman   {K:39373} 2/4/2008
Burcu -- Thanks so very much.
--Best regards, Jan


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