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Gentleness
Image Title:  Gentleness
 
 By: Mary Brown  
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Photographer Mary Brown {K:67759}
Project #38 Photo Help Camera Model Canon S5 IS
Categories People
Children
Portrait
Film Format
Portfolio Babies
All Images
Lens Canon Zoom Lens
Uploaded 11/29/2007 Film / Memory Type Digital
    ISO / Film Speed 100
Views 294 Shutter 1/15
Favorites Aperture f/3.5
Critiques 41 Rating
6.40
/ 15 Ratings
Location City - 
State -  ONTARIO
Country - Canada   Canada
About I am looking for some help re changing a photo to B&W. I use PS 7. The Desaturate, I know, does not produce the desired result. I played with some of the Image Adjustments, but am wondering which Image Adjustment others find to be the most effective. I think this is a great candidate for B&W. However, for me, it seems to lack something. It turned out okay. But, I'd prefer stunning.
Do you find using the B&W option right from the camera works well? I must try that another time and see how it turns out now that I have an upgraded camera.
I know this is not a simply answered question, but any suggestions would be definately appreciated. Thanks.
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There are 41 Comments in 1 Pages
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Jose Ignacio (Nacho) Garcia Barcia   {K:89521} 11/29/2007
magnificent. 7+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++


Michele Carlsen   {K:122915} 11/29/2007
Hi Mary,
I wish I could help You with your question BUT I am not that advanced in photgraphy--I am advanced in what I like tho & I do LOVE this image just as it is ...7++++++++++ Sooooooooo tender a momment in time to trasure forever ..

Best wishes,
Michele~


Michele Carlsen   {K:122915} 11/29/2007
PS.
I LOVE the framing too :))


G P   {K:9768} 11/29/2007
Hi Mary, No question I love this perceptive sensitivity …it’s truly touch of a human, Love it!
Thank you for sharing!
Harry

PS: Marry regards tech suggestions I like to share some with you:) but hope not create any offended feelings because as far I know there always reactions which most misunderstandings cause of a language + photographer’s pride.PS not my true expertise but channels mixture it’s very important. Shooting on B/W mode it's a must experimenting picture settings,example dense areas with week lighting wouldn’t work well but excellent on RGB!

“Filters are very important my fever is Polarizer, Gradual, Yellow filter) spot meter is a + personally have customized several complicate setting for explicit B/W because PS couldn’t duplicate or will contribute to something unnatural + for me isn’t worth working 6 hours on a shot just to make it effective. I hope in some way this perspective will offer some helpful ideas :) Last yellow filter is extremely helpful but in some cases picture modes and spot meter (if available) could cause problems of under over exposure between dark subjects

Now CRITIC for the image :( I think the lighting effect would have greater impact if wasn’t distributed equal, also I will had choose a slight angle to avoid that visual flatness! That’s my opinion!
All the best!
Harry


Gust@vo Sch3v3rin   {K:116995} 11/29/2007
Dulce y amorosa.
Felicitaciones!


Najat Al barakati   {K:113} 11/30/2007
wooooooooooooooooooooow cute


J.J. Guy Longtin   {K:5563} 11/30/2007
First let me say that you have truly captured a very special photo here along with a wonderful presentation!

As for your question with regard to B&W I would suggest you shoot in B&W. I have shot many many rolls of Ilford 400 B&W film in my past and learned the "Zone System". Once one gets the hang of the "Zone System" you will better understand how to shoot B&W. Here is a good site that you may want to visit to understand what I'm talking about. http://www.fineimages.org/zone_system.htm
Scroll down to "Gray Scale" and you will find some pretty good info on how to use it.
Hope this is of some use to you.

Looking forward to seeing more of your work.

Guy


Mary Brown   {K:67759} 11/30/2007
Thanks so much J.J. for the information. I will have a look at that website.
MAry


Mary Brown   {K:67759} 11/30/2007
Harry, your comments most definately do not offend in any way. I asked for suggestions and am happy that you took the time to offer yours. I do not have a spot meter. As far as filters--I just bought some recently and have not had the time to really experiment with them. That is something that I hope to be able to do soon. Thanks for the suggestions regarding the lighting and angle. You have given me things to think about and consider for another time.
MAry


Baha Sadri   {K:13942} 11/30/2007
Very dear Mary,
This is another fine intimate portrait shot of the new comer grandson to the family with his mother merting another award...
I am just attaching this to say:

Congratulations Mary!!!


jacques brisebois   {K:53954} 11/30/2007
great tenderness moment, very nicely done Mary.


Elias Monges   {K:2028} 11/30/2007
beautiful picture...remind me an old photo....how did you make the shadow around the ellipse?..how did you light only the center?....thanks in advance.


Roger Skinner   {K:61856} 11/30/2007
I think it just fine as is


Mary Brown   {K:67759} 12/1/2007
Hi Elias. I use PS7. To make the shadow around the ellipse and have just the center lit
--use the Elliptical tool to mark the area
--under Select choose Inverse
--under Layer, choose New Fill Layer, then Solid Colour or Gradient to fill in the colouring that you want
--under Layer, choose Layer Style, then Outer Glow
--use the Size tool to get the size you want and click the coloured square to change the colour of the shadow to whatever you wish
I hope I explained it okay. If you need clarification, just ask.
MAry


Dwight Parks   {K:4423} 12/1/2007
Mary,
This image is absolutely breathtaking, I believe, as it is. I love the whole concept and it is such a tender moment it holds any viewer's attention, I'm sure.
The frame, lighting and baby with mother are all just stunning! You've done an excellent job.
I looked thru my books and found what I think is a very good procedure for color to b/w conversions. I used it a year or so ago for 10 images I showed here in Orlando and was happy with the results. If you would like a copy of this my email is DwightP980@aol.com and I will send you this article.
I still think it is best to shoot images with a good b/w film i.e. Kodak or Ilford if you know from the moment of image conception you want a b/w image, but the digital sometimes can come very close with post processing.
Regards, Dwight


alberto baez duarte   {K:6738} 12/1/2007
Hi Mary...your question is too hard for me in the technical matter...but as for the picture itself it looks great...excellent photo by all means..7++++..congratulations.
saludos.
alberto.


Elias Monges   {K:2028} 12/1/2007
Thank you MAry....later todat I'm going to try your lesson....I'm going to let you know how works..EM


Bill Voizin   {K:10467} 12/2/2007
Beautiful "Madonna" Mary! I wouldn't change a thing. My expertise in Photoshop is most limited, but I find if you use the channel mixer under the adjusting mode you can create a truer, sharper black and tone the whites the way you like. Superb image...just remarkable! Best regards--Bill Voizin


Salvador María Lozada   {K:16271} 12/2/2007
I am unable to make suggestions. I only can say, the image looks perfect.
Warm congratulations, Mary.
Best wishes,
Salvador


Salvador María Lozada   {K:16271} 12/2/2007
I am unable to make suggestions. I only can say, the image looks perfect.
Warm congratulations, Mary.
Best wishes,
Salvador


Larry Fosse   {K:65725} 12/2/2007
Just Aw!....wonderful wonderful Mary


Hamad AL-Naemi   {K:256} 12/3/2007
wow its really like a heaven on earth
A wonderful and very beautiful work

with all best wishes,
Hamad


Bartosz Troch   {K:1988} 12/3/2007
Very good photo! :) 7/7

Regards,

Bartosz


Roberto Arcari Farinetti   {K:177029} 12/3/2007

Hi Mary ..

This picture and portrait of mother-child is fantastic.
First I have to make congrautulzioni for the happy moment and a hug the mom is safe, the more beautiful hot, of the world.

I believe that you have captured a beautiful moment of intimacy ..

In addition to the B / W, safe is better with the use of PS7 conversion "gray scale".
In this way the result is the "b / w", then as in traditional technique using different color filters to emphasize some help.

Depending on the result to be achieved, you can use the filter yellow, red, green and so on..
I you attached a simple result of the conversion "grayscale" and a little touch in the levels.

have all the ebst , my dear.. wishes and hugs

yours
roby



Mary Brown   {K:67759} 12/3/2007
Roberto, thank you so much for taking the time to explain. I will definately try your suggestions. I like the way the revision of my image that you included. I appreciate your comment.
MAry


Roberto Arcari Farinetti   {K:177029} 12/4/2007
thanks to you for your patience..
roby


G P   {K:9768} 12/4/2007
Welcome,Mary... opsss … didn't know was the new project..., I had zeroed my emotions cause was easy for me to consecrate on the technical aspect than been from the emotional side…
Harry


István Sándor   {K:2348} 12/6/2007
Superb composition excellent photo


a. gianfranco baccelli   {K:19330} 12/7/2007
GREAT! Beautiful light and nice composition.


Del Metheny   {K:25342} 12/7/2007
Mary, I am not skilled enough to answer any of your technical questions but to me it looks perfect. I love the framing and how you concentrated the light on the faces of the mother and her child then shaded it out toward the edges. It is a very touching photo. Del.


Alison Du Flon   {K:35642} 12/11/2007
This is a wonderful shot and I love the oval framing you have given it. You have gotten some nice examples on how to make it pop below. Alison


Alison Du Flon   {K:35642} 12/11/2007
Mary even though I already put a comment, I also have ps 7 and I did this just making a layer and using curves. Alison

adjusting curves


Mary Brown   {K:67759} 12/11/2007
Alison, thank you so much for your comment and including your revision. I have to learn more about using layes. There is obviously a lot thay can be achieved using tghem. That is something I have not done much with. Santa might be bringing me a book so I can lean more about using PS.
MAry


Gary Auerbach   {K:3692} 12/11/2007
Looks like a Julia Margaret Cameron. Very nice study.

Bravo....Gary


Pablo Dylan   {K:52728} 12/12/2007
Marvelous moment,swwet and weel composed,i think the soft B&W is perfect for this.
Brava!!!

Pablo


reza goudarzi   {K:6281} 12/13/2007
best place for resting..the warm arms of mom
good shot and thx for sharing
regards
reza.


Rachel Leah   {K:24704} 1/17/2008
I hoe you don't mind but I played with your picture a bit... with my own personal style though. I adjusted the levels and also changed color variations a bit. This is such a precious moment you captured, I know they will both love this photo for years to come! You have a great eye... this is just so cute! I LOVE it! :) :)

~Rachel~



Juan Gonzalo Marcano Prieto   {K:14209} 1/18/2008
no tengo palabras para tanta sencilles y belleza, excelente 7+++++++++++++++


John Hatz   {K:138564} 2/2/2008
Excellent 'use' of oval frame into frame, I like the element of a frame that 'fallows' the main shape of the lighting support here! excellent also the element that the frame 'hug' the mother, as mom hug her baby...
I always firstly saturate my photos, add a bit more contrast and a bit lower brightness and then I desaturate the photos, that makes the tones in greyscale looks more 'different' and so the details...
be well Mary!


Mary Brown   {K:67759} 2/2/2008
Hi John. Thanks for the B&W conversion suggestion. I must try that.
MAry


Linda Bique   {K:73856} 3/2/2008
A beautiful moment captured forever Mary, lovely image...Have a great Sunday! :)


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