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Now, let's see what we'll find
Image Title:  Now, let's see what we'll find
 
 By: Nick Karagiaouroglou  
  Copyright ©2008



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Photographer Nick Karagiaouroglou {K:98945}
Project #25 Characters Camera Model Canon T90
Categories People
Street
Film Format 24x36
Portfolio Lens Tokina RMC 28-70mm 1:3.5-4.5
Uploaded 2/2/2008 Film / Memory Type Fuji  Superia
    ISO / Film Speed
Views 94 Shutter
Favorites Aperture f/
Critiques 14 Rating
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Location City -  Karlsruhe
State - 
Country - Germany   Germany
About So let the discovery take place, ey? Any comments would be very welcome.
Random Pictures By:
Nick
Karagiaouroglou


For a split of a second

Under umbrellas in the old town

First glances of solid water

High ambitions

Zig zag over the water

A pedestrian and a bell

Liquid facetes

By the road

Shining trees

Evening and no lights

There are 14 Comments in 1 Pages
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Dave Stacey   {K:121052} 2/2/2008
Good shot of his hand gestures, Nick!
Dave.


aLi Naghizadeh   {K:19457} 2/3/2008
Wonderful shot dear Nick.. well done..
Cheers... aLi


Nick Karagiaouroglou   {K:98945} 2/3/2008
I consider this one to be the best of the 6 regarding details and definition on little Sammy and his immediate surroundings too, Dave!

But even on this one I miss something - still trying to find out what it could be.

Thanks a lot again and all the best,

Nick


Nick Karagiaouroglou   {K:98945} 2/4/2008
Many thanks for the nice comment, Ali!

Wonder-full of problems too, I guess, since I have the impression that much is missing on these images. But I work myself through the whole problem.

Cheers,

Nick


aLi Naghizadeh   {K:19457} 2/4/2008
Thanks for the reply Nick . But i believe the simplicity of this shot has made it special ..
Cheers .. aLi


Nick Karagiaouroglou   {K:98945} 2/4/2008
Yes, I did have the intention to let it be simple, Ali - just a kid. As Paul suggested about "Heureca!", I guess that simplicity would come stronger with a tighter framing (i.e. closer zoom). I'll have to try that out.

Thanks a lot for your reply and all the best!

Nick


Vandy Neculae   {K:6585} 2/4/2008
Marvellous composition!
Pleasant, fresh and colorful view.

Vandi


Gust@vo Sch3v3rin   {K:126819} 2/4/2008
Muy linda toda serie, transmite alegrķa y vitalidad...

Felicitaciones!


Andre Denis   {K:56160} 2/5/2008
Hi Nick,
I have just reviewed all of these images of this little story that you are telling. I think it is a good idea to do this kind of presentation BTW.
I'm reading the comments with interest. I'm going to make a few suggestions for you particularly concerning the composition of the images. I believe they can all be improved considerably with just a small change. I think this one is a good example to show how "getting close" makes a world of difference.
One of the things that sticks in my mind from one of my photography classes is when one of my instructors told us that one of the biggest mistakes people make is not getting close enough to their subjects. I believe this series suffers from that problem more than anything else. What he used to say to us was... Get close to your subject. When you think you are close enough, get closer, even uncomfortably close. Of course this can be achieved with a large telephoto lens, so as not to disturb the subject. :) Or we can crop afterwards. Getting close right on the negative or file, of course improves the quality rather than blowing it up after the fact. But it is the composition that should really be considered above all. The attached example is exactly as you photographed it, but with a lot of unimportant details taken away.
I know you have explained that you were not looking for a masterpiece with these images. It's just that I thought this was a perfect opportunity to pass on an important lesson that I will never forget. That hint from my instructor really hit home with me when I went home and looked through family albums and I could see exactly what he was talking about.
Andre

Getting Close


Nick Karagiaouroglou   {K:98945} 2/5/2008
Thanks a lot for the nice comment, Vandi!

All these six images have problems for me, though, which I am very interested to know more about, considering the suggestions of the people here.

Cheers,

Nick


Nick Karagiaouroglou   {K:98945} 2/8/2008
And I think that the transmission of joy would be stronger of I would have zoomed closer and left pout the branches of the top half, as Andre's crop demonstrates so nicely, Gustavo!

Thank you very much for the nice comment again,

Nick


Nick Karagiaouroglou   {K:98945} 2/8/2008
Andre, what can I say else thatn a big warm "Thank you!" for your suggestions and for your analysis of the problem! Yes, sir! That is exactly what I think is *the* problem of these images! The subject is too small, too weakly representend on the image! This great crop you did is exactly what I just *have* to retry using a better zoom or, even better, standing closer to the subject!

Of course the subject has to be embedded in some scene, and of course the scene is that part of the image that enhances the subject - so it must be there. But in all these images the scene was too much, really! The branches, for example, over and behind little Sammy are completely unnessecary if not even completely wrong here!

Thanks a lot, Dave! I see that I must start putting more weight on the very subject and less weight on the scene - and that's exactly my kind of problem. I am too much into the meaning of the scene, and I have to reduce that attitude by the time!

Best wishes,

Nick


Andre Denis   {K:56160} 2/10/2008
Hi Nick,
I would just like to add that I don't think every single shot should be extremely close to the subject. (especially in a series of images) We can always isolate the subject at a distance to create a different mood.
Andre


Nick Karagiaouroglou   {K:98945} 2/11/2008
Oh yes, that's quite clear to me too, Andre! There should be a balance between the close-ups and the more distant shots. But for some reason for this series I think that eliminating the trees on the upper part would make the whole series better. Or perhaps it is simply that we want to have always exactly those shots as we didin't make them? ;-)

Cheers,

Nick


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