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  Photography Forum: Photography Help Forum: 
  Q. Feedback on wedding setup?

Asked by Anthony Gargani    (K=4527) on 9/6/2004 
I've been racking my brain trying to to settle this and really need some input and help.

Background: About 8 months ago I shot my stepson's wedding ceremony. It was a small family and close friends only situation with a total of about 20 people. It was held in a very small church and pretty laid back. I used my Digital Rebel, a Sunpak flash, 50mm f1.8 and 'kit lens' 18-55mm f3.5-5.6 (29-88mm in 35mm equiv.). Naively, I had no backup camera or flash. Luckily it went 'OK'-nothing great but I had plenty of usable shots of the ceremony, group shots, and the dinner afterward. It was humbling and I learned a lot (mostly how hard pros really have to work to do a wedding the right way).

Now...

I was approached by my daughter-in-law's father who apparently liked the pictures enough to want to 'hire' me to shoot his wedding (he REFUSES-his words-to pay a PRO). In spite of hearing that I shouldn't do it, I agreed because I really want the experience and because of the family 'pressure'(you're gonna help us out with this right?).

This affair will be a combination of outdoor ceremony and indoor reception. It is black-tie, probably around 50 people attending. He will provide me with a tux and I am allowed to bring my wife (assistant). I am to be paid $300.

This has put considerably more pressure on me than the first time (actually, I'm kind of freaking out a little bit-lol). I have been been reviewing my equipment and trying to figure out how to prepare for this. I REALLY NEED SOME HELP HERE!

My question is what do you think of this as an equipment setup:

I currently have:

1. Digital Rebel
2. Canon EF-S 18-55 f3.5-5.6
3. Canon EF 50mm f1.8
4. Canon EF 55-200 f4.5-5.6 USM
5. Sigma 70-200 f2.8 HSM
6. Canon 420EX flash

What I am considering:

1. Canon EOS Elan 7N 35mm body ($260)
2. Tamron 28-75 f2.8 ($329)
OR-
2. Tamron 28-105 f2.8 ($724)
3. Canon 550EX flash ($320)
4. Portable reflector for outdoor shots (?)
5. POSSIBLY battery grips for one or both bodies

I cannot afford a second digital body at this time and my 35mm cameras are all manual focus FD mounts. Since I still shoot film I thought the Elan 7N would make a good second camera (or even primary camera) to use for the wedding and would fit in with my current EOS lens setup.

The Tamrons seemed to be a good less expensive alternative to Canon lenses in the same focal range. I believe that the 28-105mm would probably be the best range to use for a wedding, but I have heard that the 28-75 is better optically. I am also wondering whether I should add a second fast prime and what size to use-35mm f2.0, 85mm f1.8, or perhaps Canons 100mm f2.0?

The 550EX will trigger my 420EX as a slave that can be held by my wife to open up the lighting. The reflector can also be held by my wife for outdoor 'formals'.

I will also be carrying about 2GB of memory, and I am thinking about 8 rolls of film minimum (I will also bring some B&W). I have batteries and other accessories as well.

I would GREATLY appreciate anyones input on this setup. Suggestions or caveats welcomed as well.

BTW-the wedding will be held on September 24, 2004.

Thanks so much in advance for any help-

Anthony

ps-sorry this is so long, I didn't know how to cut it down any more.





    


James McGinnis
 James McGinnis   (K=6045) - Comment Date 9/7/2004
Anthony,

I'm in a similar fix as you so I can certainly "feel your pain!" Here's my advice but I'm not a PRO by any means.

Elan 7 --great choice. I shoot an EOS 3 with an EOS 3 as a back-up. But, that's actually a matter of accidental circumstance. My original intent was to get an Elan 7!

Canon EF 50mm f1.8----I've been told this is almost a "must have" lense for weddings. Excellent choice.

Rather than play around with those zoom lenses, I'd consider the Canon 100mm f2.8 Macro. It's a good portrait lense, has a low enough "f" to let you work in limited light and it gives you some flattening of perspective that you won't get from the 50mm.

Of the zooms you've listed, I would be more inclined to go with the Sigma 70-200 f2.8 HSM. It gets you out past the 100mm, provides enough versatility to go on a second camera with no need to carry more lenses if you want to use your assitant that way. I've got a Canon 35-350 (I know...big range to cover!) that I let my "wife/assistant" use at some of the outdoor stuff I shoot. It keeps her happy and doubles the work we can get done. I just wish I had a lower "f" to work with.

Regarding your 420Ex..be sure it will be triggered by your 550. I don't think it will but I could be wrong. I've got a 430EZ and it will NOT, repeat NOT trigger as a slave. The EX family of flashes may...just be sure before you get "on the job.!"

Good luck....let me know how things go for you. I'm trying to get some weddings (going for the budget minded for now) lined up myself. I'd be interested in any "lessons learned"







 Nigel Smith   (K=3834) - Comment Date 9/7/2004
As these 1st time wedding questions go, you've thought more about it than most who find themselves in these predicaments!

How much is another D.Rebel body? think long term.

I would try for that, with your existing lenses, the 18-55 on one (with flashgun) and the Sigma on the other (probably wouldn't be used much).

What FD gear have you got? Wack some B&W in that.

I would be concerned about flashgun power. Can you get an external power pak for that?

If the DigiRebel is not possible, then film body that works with your prefered lenses and flash would be a wise backup plan.

I think the main thing is to not get too complicated. You won't have time to extensive lens changing. Even having two cameras can be a pain, either having to put one down and being worried someone will either pinch it or step on it or annoyingly dangling around your neck, banging into the other one as you swap. Think about how you managed the previous time with what you had then and decided what areas caused prroblems. Good luck.. not that far away!





 Ray Heath   (K=4559) - Comment Date 9/7/2004
ok, so he doesn't want to hire a pro, and your getting the stress, plus the cost of buying new equipment, am I the only one who thinks this is ludicrous, this is why he should hire a pro, I'm a pro and constantly hear these tales of woe, if you can't do it, don't do it, if you stuff up you'll never live it down, my experience of people who don't appreciate pros is that they also don't appreciate the effort required but want the best, they want the highest quality, they want yesterday, and they expect not ot have to pay for it, you can't win in this situation, it is unfair for this person to pressure you, as for $300 this is far too little, apart from needing to spend this money to update equipment there is the cost of materials, wear and tear, your time etc. etc. how are you going to become familiar with this new equipment in only a couple of weeks, to shoot a wedding you need to be able to use your gear intuitively, I also suspect that peolpe who don't know what they are doing give all photographers a bad name, equpment is the least of your concerns




Howie Mudge
 Howie Mudge   (K=27933) - Comment Date 9/7/2004
Hi Anthony

I recently photographed a wedding with something along the lines of what you have. Ok, I'm not a pro and this was my present for a friends wedding.

Here is the list of equipment I used.

Canon Eos 10D
Canon Eos Elan II

Tokina 19-35mm
Canon 50mm F1.8
Canon 24-85mm USM
Canon 28-135mm IS
Canon 420EX flash.

I used over 1GB of digital images, 3 rolls of fuji Reala iso100 and 3 rolls of Fuji Neopan iso 400. All in all around 500 photographs.

Out of the 500 photographs I presented the couple with 100 photographs on DVD to choose from.

I found my equipment was adequate in the lenses I have at the moment. The 50mm was ideal for indoors with low light and no flash. Outdoors the 420EX was excellent for fill flash. I look at my wedding photographs and to be honest, 11 years down the line and I think I have done a better job than the person we hired.

Just go with your gut feeling and you'll be fine. Get to know the ushers so when you want people they get them. Its good your taking your wife as there is quite a lot of pressure on you to record this wonderful day.

Good luck.

Howie





 Bart Veldhuis   (K=254) - Comment Date 9/7/2004
Besides saying farewell to everyone on that side of the family you like right now, before the breakup, and warning your son this might be the end of his marriage, I have a few tips that might prevent disaster from happening...

First and most important, don't show your pictures to ANYONE before making your final selection. Don't be tempted to show all your pictures to your daughter-in-law or her father, not even on screen while shooting. Only present the photos you selected as best afterwards.

Take low f-stop lenses.
Don't plan on changing lenses while shooting, it's a pain.
Rent, borrow or buy a middle format camera (Rolleicord, Bronica, Mamiya) for group pictures if you can, everyone likes their head to be bigger than a pixel.
Bring a reflector for outdoor shots, even if it's only a sheet. Advantage of sheet: couple can also sit down on it without dirtying their clothes.
Bring a towel. Bring an umbrella.
Scout the location some days before.
Ask the couple what they want.

Good luck!





 Bart Veldhuis   (K=254) - Comment Date 9/7/2004
Oh, almost forgot: buy an Omni-bounce for your flash
(http://www.stofen.com/Products/Index.html)

And I just found this site:
http://johnlind.tripod.com/wedding





 Bart Veldhuis   (K=254) - Comment Date 9/7/2004
Oh, almost forgot: buy an Omni-bounce for your flash
(www.stofen.com/Products/Index.html)

And I just found this site:
johnlind.tripod.com/wedding/





 Mike George   (K=3429) - Comment Date 9/7/2004
I have to agree with most all of those giving advise/input. If you can not do the wedding your stress level will be normal. Prepare for chaos. I have only done a few weddings, mainly for friends who literally couldn't afford the wedding, much less a photographer. Stress, and I do mean stress, to the bride/groom and her father that they should not expect pro results.

Ok, when I shoot a wedding I use

Digital Rebel
Canon Elan II
28-80 lens
75-300 lens (great for the candids)
Canon 420 EX Flash (and yes it can be set as a slave for use with any flash heads)
Stroboframe (enables me to raise the flash head and eliminate nearly all redeye and shadow behind the subjects.
I use a 50 yr old Koni-Omega Medium format for wide group shots.
As an emergency backup, I take my Pentex K1000 with all it's lenses as a backup to the backups listed above. I use Fuji NPH/NPS/NPC for film.

Best added advise not already mentioned here. If you are to be paid for the job, let the bride/groom know in advance that you can't allow others to be shooting while you are trying to get the posed post ceremony shots. I can't tell you how many great shots were ruined by point & shoot flashes causing closed eyes on my shots (or eyes looking the wrong direction). Be polite but let anyone else trying to shoot these to wait until you are done. I prefer to get all my shots first and if the wedding party wants they can pose for others.

Remember, you are the one that the family is counting on. You'll need to take a bit of control, especially with the family trying to take the same shots you are. If you want to work with those others taking photos, it is good pr if you can get them to wait til you take the shot, then offer to keep the subjects posed for others. Again, I can work pretty fast, so I like to get all the shots done myself first and then get out of the way and let the families go to town. I am NOT a pro, nor do I want to be (at least where weddings are concerned). I hope this helps you out some.





 khairul haque   (K=504) - Comment Date 9/8/2004
hello,
Just go for it!Nothing venture, nothig gained..u know!mount the sigma 70-200 on the elan,use the 50mm to inter change between bodies.the Ef-S with the Rebel.The 2 most important things r that dont be so tense abt what the resulst will be,enjoy urself.the other one is many ppl will see ur work,which will give u a lot PR and hopefully by the next september u will be worried with manegin ur shecedule!the $3 is not taha important at all
ur new equipment will be with u,dont buy another rebel body cos 20D will be in the market soon.
Best of luck.
regards.





 Anthony Gargani   (K=4527) - Comment Date 9/8/2004
WOW! Where to begin...

THANKS TO ALL FOR YOUR TIME AND ADVICE! You've all been really helpful and kind. Very, very much appreciated.

Bart-that site you linked to was absolutely awesome. Such great information and very well organized. There should be a 'sticky' to that page for anyone considering weddings.

Ray-I do appreciate where you are coming from, that is why I was initially hesitant to do this. I can respect the pro viewpoint completely (as an aside-I'm a plumber by trade and see this type of stuff all the time. In fact we have a saying: "Let your PLUMBER DO IT!"). However, you have to understand that in this day and age there are many second-third-and even fourth time marraiges and people don't normally want to go all out for the weddings. This individual had gotten quotes to shoot this and the lowest I believe was around $1500. He has been through some tough times lately (just got back to work in fact)so I can understand why the money is an issue. I would have done this for nothing just for the experience, the $300 to me is a nice gesture. I have, and will re-emphasize that there can be no real gurantees at my level. I will have no problem giving him a 'refund' if the whole thing is a wash.

As to where I am today-

I purchased the Elan 7 and have been practicing with it. It is much more responsive than the Rebel for AF speed and works with all my current lenses well. Most of the controls and functions are similar to the Rebel so there is not much of a learning curve there.

I will probably pick up the Tamron 28-105/2.8 or the 28-75/2.8 (considerably cheaper). I will keep the Rebel as the primary with one of these on it. I will have the 50/1.8 and the 70-200/2.8 in reserve.

Lastly, I'd like to get the 550EX with an off-shoe cord. I will experiment with hand holding the flash off camera and using it in conjunction with the 420EX for back light fill.

I am trying to excercise some restraint because I honestly can't afford to go crazy (everything will have to go on plastic at this time). But nothing I have purchased or intend to purchase wasn't on my list already. It's just been moved up a bit.

Interestingly enough, as of this morning I was considering returning the Elan 7 (which wound up costing me $359 with tax and batteries) and going with my AE-1 setup. I already can cover the range I need, I have a good flash for it, and the wonderful 50mm f1.4. I am comfortable enough with the AE-1, I'm just a little scared about trying to manually focus quickly because I'm out of practice with it.

Anyway...

Thanks again to all who responded. I will keep you updated.

Regards,

Anthony





 Kelli Evans   (K=356) - Comment Date 9/8/2004
My best advice to you is to spend a little extra ($40) to get a flash bracket as opposed to hand holding the flash. It will eliminate shadows,visible shadows and will be easier to manage. That is porbably the most important piece of equiptment I have ever bought for shooting weddings. Use your flash for fill for outdoors portraits is you don't want to be bothered with a reflector. Too much set up and equipment becomes too time consuming, and people get anxious to be donwe with formals. If your shooting film- I usually shoot around 20 rolls. The Fuji NPS 160 gives great skin tones- you wouldn't be disappointed. You can get a 20 pack for $57 through Adorama. Some may laugh, but if you bring your film to Wal-Mart it goes directly to Fuji for processing and is only @ $6 per roll of 36 exposures w/ single prints. Have fun!





 Michael CHAPEL   (K=193) - Comment Date 9/9/2004
Hi Anthony
Well I have just read your post and I have basically the same equipment as you do, and yes I have just done a similar thing (a wedding shoot groan they are hard work ) It all comes down to the fact that if you use a little imagination browse through some wedding magazines for ideas things will be fine....I did not invest in any extra equipment and besides the money you are being paid doesnt justify the amount you are being paid...you will ultimately be the one out of pocket..just go with what you have got in equipment....this is one of the wedding photos taken basically on the same equipment as you have...





 Warren B   (K=7272) - Comment Date 9/9/2004
Anthony;

You've already been given some excellent advice here, my only comment would be what ever new equipment you may get, make sure you spend a week or two well before the day finding out how it all works. A wedding day isn't the day to be trying to figure out where the batteries go or how the zoom lock works.

Good luck with it.

Warren Brown.





 Anthony Gargani   (K=4527) - Comment Date 9/21/2004
Don't know if anyone is still interested-lol-but I thought I'd drop in real quick and give the latest 'update'. I've been studying and shooting a lot which is why I have posted sooner.

Equipment List:

Canon 20D body
Canon 300D body
Elan 7N body

Tamron 17-35mm f2.8-4.0
Tamron 28-75mm f2.8
Canon 50mm f1.8
Canon 85mm f1.8
Sigma 70-200 f2.8

Sigma ST500 DG Super flash
Canon 420EX flash
Sunpak PZ5000 AF flash
Canon off-shoe cord
Stroboframe Quick Flip bracket
Lumiquest Pocket Bouncer
Stoffen Omni-Bounce

(4) GB memory
(10) Rolls Kodak Portra 160
(5) Rolls Kodak BW400cn B&W
(5) Rolls Fuji 200ASA color print

(5) BP-511 Canon batteries
(16) NiMH AA's
(12) AA's alkaline
(2) CR123A (for the Elan)

Misc.

Small box\stool to stand on (I'm 5' 6" haha) for group shots.

Blanket for bride to sit on outside.

List of shots\poses\wedding party\family members\must have shots from bride.

'Emergency Kit'

I'm thinking that I'll have the 20D setup with the 28-75mm and flash bracket with the 500DG Super and the 300D setup with the 17-35 and the 420EX on camera. I will carry a small shoulder bag with the primes 'just in case' I need them in a hurry. Also extra memory and batteries in my pocket. With my wife by my side I can do lens changes fairly quick (we've been practicing lens 'hand-offs'), and the second camera can be used for alternate views and perspectives.

Right now I'm finalizing some flash testing and trying to get good balance using the 420EX as a slave\bounced\etc.

I'm getting psyched!

Thanks again for all your help everyone...

Anthony





 Nigel Smith   (K=3834) - Comment Date 9/22/2004
looks like you've been on a buying frenzy! Sound like your also working out how to use it all (esp the flashguns) beforehand.. good idea!





 Anthony Gargani   (K=4527) - Comment Date 9/29/2004
Well gang, I survived-lol...

I'm working on the 'cut' list right now seperating the keepers from the rest and trying to get down to 100-150 photos to put together in a 'proof' CD. If I get a chance I'll throw a few up for your critique. I'd be very interested and appreciative of what others think of them.

As far as the nuts and bolts of the big day I'm very happy to report I had no equipment problems and was prepared enough in that department to cover all the bases. Lens selection worked well and I am happy with the overall quality and performance of the lenses I used. Both cameras performed admirably, but the 20D was a real nice camera to shoot this with. I am totally at peace with my decision to purchase it.

By far the biggest asset I had with me was my wife who I setup with the 300D (Digital Rebel-sheeesshh I hate that name!) and the 420EX on camera. She acted as a second shooter and was able to cover (very well for her experience I might add) such things as the bride getting dressed in the Women's Locker Room, while I coevered the groom getting dressed in the Men's Locker Room. It was great being able to handoff cameras when I needed a different lens etc. She also assisted with posing of the 'formals' (not very formal unfortunately).

The biggest headache was getting people to cooperate and 'hold the pose'. We would get the group arranged and by the time we were done with the last one on the end everyone else had shifted around out of 'position'-lol. We did what we could-you can lead a horse to water...

Anyway...it was easily a 10 hour day with drive time. We were the first ones there and the last to pull out of the parking lot. I'm not sure that's normal but the bride and groom didn't get into the limo until like 11:30 at night and I wanted to get them in the limo and leaving.

I shot over 850 pictures between the two cameras (basically 4+GB of RAW and JPG images). Only needed the one battery in each camera and only changed out the flash unit batteries on the main unit toward the end of the night. Using mostly fill flash outdoors helped with that. I was pretty happy with the lumiquest pocket bouncer I was using, and the Strobo Frame Camera Flip bracket worked great (at least to a first time flash bracket user).

I guess my only hmmmm? that I have in the back of mind pertains to 'style'. I'm not so sure I have any. I mean I came-I saw-I shot. I shot what I thought at the moment was important, and I shot it the way I saw it. I don't think there was really anytime to step back and say 'hmmm...what if I put Uncle Ernie over there against that tree?" I was more or less "there's a shot-point-compose-check-exposure-BAM!" Is this normal? Apart from a few minutes with the bride and groom for setup type shots (outside, stairwell, etc.) there just wasn't any desire on the part of the bride and groom to fart around with too many setup shots. And the guests and bridal party? They wanted to PARTY. But, this was pretty much the way the bride said she wanted it-casual, not a lot of fuss. I did the best I could at my level to get what I thought the bride and groom would want after the big day was over.

Confession: I blew the 'rings' shot. I got one or two during the ceremony but that was it. I realize many times these shots are done after the fact, but I neglected to get it. Also, as much as I practiced with lighting-especially flash lighting-it was not enough. I am not at a competent level to make adjustments to my flash setup quickly and quite a few shots suffered because of it. It is on my list of things to never let happen again.

To sum it up:

This was a great experience for me (I know my work isn't over yet, there is still a lot of post processing etc. to do) and I learned quite a bit-well actually I learned A LOT! Weddings still must be some of the fastest moving events ever devised! You really have to think on your feet.

So was it worth $400 (I made a mistake above-it was $400 not $300)? Yes-I really think so. There is a value to experience (especially experience under fire) that you cannot put a price on. I could easily have spent $400 on classes or books, or even spent time as a wedding assistant. All of that would have been helpful, but not equal to actually doing it imho. I am thankful I had just enough confidence (stupidity?) to go through with this and yet was realistic enough to know I may have failed. I have learned...

Again, thanks to all who commented above I couldn't have done it AS WELL without your input and advice!

Sincerely,

Anthony





 Bart Veldhuis   (K=254) - Comment Date 9/29/2004
Thanks, it was great to read how you fared. I'm glad it all worked out :-)





 Nigel Smith   (K=3834) - Comment Date 9/30/2004
congrats! sounds like it turned out ok! thanks for the update.

As people paying attention, they usually have the attention span of a gnat! More worried about where the booze and eats are!





 Anthony Gargani   (K=4527) - Comment Date 9/30/2004
I posted three examples in my portfolio. Just a small sampling-lol. These may not be the finalized versions, but show pretty much where I'm at with it.

Thanks...





 Marc Truitt   (K=94) - Comment Date 10/7/2004
I just read your question and unfortunatly, I am responding after the date of the wedding. I just want to know how everything went and what you decided to go with. I, too, have been asked to do a wedding for a family friend based on some positive reviews of my photography. I am really wanting to get published and I would like to take my work to the next level and I am *concerned* about how to take that next step. Your story is one of encouragement for me.





 Anthony Gargani   (K=4527) - Comment Date 10/20/2004
Hello All!

Just dropping by to give the latest updates...

Three more shots posted-candids.

353 shots processed and uploaded to Ofoto for the Bride and Groom to pick out which ones they want printed. Many of these shots are 'friends and family' shots from the reception that they can get prints for also.

I will provide two CD's (over 1.3GB of pics) for them to keep as a slide show etc.

I received an email response from the bride:

"Tony,
Just reviewed. All we can say is "oh, my gosh - they are FABULOUS!!!!!!" Thank you SO MUCH. We just love them! Such fun to see that night - it was just so special for us and best of all, you and (my wife) made it a memory we will keep for the rest of our lives.

Thank you with all of our hearts"

And also permission to post and use the photos whatever way I would like. Oh yea, they want to speak to the wedding organizer where the event was held to see about getting me work (not so sure about this...).

So, I guess it was a success.

Now the funny part (or weird part if you will)is I am having 'shooter remorse' or something like that.

What I mean is, when I look through all of my shots of the day I get a sudden feeling of "these shots are UGLY!". Not sure how else to describe it. I see no style, nothing interesting, boring flat looking 'snap-shots'. Basically it's a total loss of confidence in my abilities. I see the work of so many other photographers that just grabs me and then I look at my portfolio and the wedding shots in particular and it's like: BAM! Dude, you suck! Is this normal?

Anyway, I am very sincerely thankful to all who resonded here to help me out, and to those who took the time to view my shots and\or portfolio to offer suggestions and encouragement. It is GREATLY APPRECIATED and I could not have done as well as I did without it. It's why Usefilm 'rocks' as my 11yr old likes to say...

Take care all,

Anthony





 Mike George   (K=3429) - Comment Date 10/20/2004
Based on the info in your post above, this is only your second wedding. Based on your photos posted your have done a fairly good job. More importantly, the customer liked it a lot. The answer is it was a success.

As for the post wedding depression, I get that every time I shoot something for some one else. After the fact, I see things I wish weren't in the shots or a better way to have shot a picture. Generally, those whom have paid me (very few of these) for photo work, have raved about the results. I am not as happy with my work as they are. I guess it is because I expect a lot out of myself. I suspect your feelings are similiar to my own. I would suggest you compare the second wedding shots to the first one. Did you do some things better? Did the results overall improve (even if only a little bit)? If you improved, even if only a bit, you are moving in the right direction.

I think you feelings are quite normal. Weddings are a thing of beauty and are difficult to do exceptionally well. Those who do them for a living earn every cent. I have now shot 4 in my life and was miserable with each one. I didn't like the results (much like you) as they didn't seem to have any personality. I worried about missing something and letting the bride & groom down. Way too much stress on me. On the other hand, there are great photos opportunities to be taken at weddings. Some of the best photos I have ever taken were of people at weddings who did not know I was taking their pictures. The emotion of the moment, the folks in their best clothes and even an occasional intoxicated guest have given me shots that make me smile to this day. I hope my ramblings have been of some assistance in your dilemma.




Larry Hammond
 Larry Hammond   (K=16631) - Comment Date 10/20/2004
Anthony,

Just read your update.........you are doing fine, really, just few little things. If I were to write what I feel when I view my wedding resluts, would be much the same, actually.

One key word you need here, is self confidece, just a little. Too much will make you careless. Yeah, been there, done that.

Question for you, what is this "Ofoto" you use for proofs, a program. Do you have a link?? My concern
about offering proofs on CD is, what REALLY stops people from copying, burning discs, printing etc??
I have a thread posted here also, on this subject, should you care to respond please....

Thanks,

Larry





 Anthony Gargani   (K=4527) - Comment Date 10/20/2004
Hi Mike,

Yes your words are very comforting and encouraging to me. Thank you for taking the time to reply-I appreciate it.

Re: impovement...

Yes, there is no comparison between the first and second weddings. Much has improved. That is a very good thing-lol. Thanks for reminding me to do that, as growth is what it is all about.

Still not sure (as you have said...) that this is something I would be comfortable with doing much of. Especially a 'real' wedding that starts at 6am and goes until midnight with all the bride at home shots, and a full reception. What I shot was very scaled down and relatively short. I would consider doing photography for small weddings or second weddings etc. No way I could handle a full wedding at this point in time.

Again, thank you for your encouragement, kind words, and time...

Anthony




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